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Welcome to /ic/. If you are looking to hone your creative skills, please consult these general resources:

One-Stop Beginners' Guide
The w/ic/i

And don't forget to HEED THE RULES

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Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
Naoki Saito: https://youtu.be/8jsZGeaWkhE?si=6HZIvG9Bx3y9qoHs&t=12
AnimeShijuku: https://twitter.com/animesijyuku/status/1717415459778347358
Krenz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw
**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:

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>>7153653
what show was this from again..? man, anime can be very forgettable sometimes.
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>>7153653
Literally everyone says to copy.
pyw.
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>>7152952
Does anyone have an archive of anime hands/feet? I'm trying to grind those two since that's currently what I'm weakest at.
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>>7153721
>Literally everyone
based newfag

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Post your work and I a /beg/ will give you as much constructive criticism as I can
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>>7147823
>>7152813
Now the final pages.
First I fell that you need a address page. The woman is in a wheelchair and your protagonist should push her out to show her the garden before putting the flowers on her head
She has more of a reaction to the main character as to the garden though the garden is the most important part of the story.
This moment alone needs one or two more pages I fell for being a emotional component of the story.

My final big gripe is. The characters suffer from horrible main face syndrome. You need to draw more different heads and hair cuts.
I couldn't tell the woman apart from the protagonist and the Theo children and the woman on the Polaroid
You need need need to differentiate your characters more.

Outside from the comic you should practice more proportions, environmental art, and buildings. Also I recommend you to read more manga and comic.
Your story nice and even if my critic feels callous I still liked it. The message of people in pain needing healing is very nice.
And again im sorry for giving you critic so late
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>>7150079
Very nice art. I have zero gripes at it honestly. It's just good
But don't let it go to your head
You might be good at profils like this but your weakness might lie elsewhere
You draw your characters very round and many people might dislike it especially if you attempt a bigger piece separate form a existing IP
What I want to tell you is. You have appeal but only likely through existing stuff
Improvement comes through many ways and black and white cartoons don't make it apparent
Keep working and keep delivering results
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>>7150027
Foreshortening is the word you're looking for I think
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>>7152892
Thx anon for the great criticism you provided
I screenshoted them all
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>>7138020
Never posted on this board before because I've always been at an autistic middle ground where I hold enough ego to refuse to learn any fundamentals at all and maximize the "uniqueness" (cope) of my drawings; yet am also quite self concious about showing them off to people, especially more legit artists.

>>7150079
This is really well done and I'm gonna save it to my reference folder.

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Previous thread: >>7066089

What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly, keep discussion at a civil level.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
>Tag the OP if you want a resource included here.
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>>7153450
Repostin' from prev.
Two Elmer's, A Bob, and two other kids' I don't have names for. And a Kiwi.
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>>7153450
Went for a vintage poster look on this one
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trying out colours
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For an art trade
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I just dont fucking get it. I've been drawing for 2ish years now, studied countless books and improved in various areas of drawing the body, can draw arms, legs, feet, heads, and even somewhat convincing hands

BUT

the moment I get to drawing the torso I have no fucking idea whats going on, and it ends up looking like a elementary kid with down syndrome drew it. How the fuck do you contruct a female torso, and no dont point me to heh le do figure drawing, I can dump this thread to image limit of my figure drawings, and regardless of how accurate my studies are, i still cant visualize the underlying structure of the female torso

Im thinking its fucking over, i just want to draw busty anime girls in ntr situations
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It was too late before I realized how much I messed up
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>draw tits that cover 80% of the figure
>waahhhh why can't I visualize the torso?
Listen, fat fuck, one step at a time.

That said, it might be time for you to relearn the value of symbol-drawing.
Sure, it's very preached against on /ic/, but once you're truly stuck, it might help you to memorize a few poses and draw them purely from memory.

Once your 3D sense develops further, you can revisit these memorized symbols and rework on truly understanding them.
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>>7153541
What symbols do you go to for the torso? Id be fine brute force memorying a flat torso I can stick fat boobs on each time but theres no books starting from flat
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>>7153640
the symbol thing is bs, if you don't know how something looks you just use reference. same as you don't just randomly cook without a recipe and expect something great to come out.
you can also take your own photo references if needed. if you wanna use imagination but imagination is lacking use a physical/digital mannekin as an aid tool.
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>>7153640
I searched for over 30 minutes, had a cool picture for torsos, but couldn't find it. I'm sure it's somewhere in my folders...
But just find pictures that you like and where the torso looks appealing to you and memorize a few good angles.

I'm not making this up btw, Krenz teaches that (and tells you to generally think in pentagons, because squares might be too stable).
Just turn on subtitles, timestamped the part:
https://youtu.be/kbKqIJcIUCw?t=5132

>>7153713
You are retarded, following a recipe is exactly what memorizing shapes is about, you are not applying culinary knowledge when following exact steps written by someone else or when memorizing stock shapes.
Drawing a torso while actually visualizing/constructing it is the equivalent of learning the principles of cooking and then being able to prepare it without following recipes, based on knowledge.

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I got the idea to use color palettes ripped from album covers as a way to cheat having to pick my own colors, so far its a massive pain in the ass, but a lot of fun. Ive only listened to 3 songs from this album, go ahead and call me a poser and a fake fan lmao, but I love the cover art and decided to have a go at it since i suck major ass at dealing with complementary palettes. Hopefully this thread doesnt die immediately lol, post drawings using colors from album covers, music videos, band posters, etc !
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>>7151783
good idea actually until the cover contains a rainbow
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>>7151883
I couldn't find anything in my spotify library with a rainbow on it, this eyesore color palette was close enough lol
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>>7153284
i got: in silico - pendulum
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>>7153753
forgot pic

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If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com

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>>7153712
I want to imbibe her ab sweat
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>>7153423
weird pose, isn't this just 2 unrelated poses stitched together? I need some help with this
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>>7153717
Nice system, I can see cool shapes coming out of this
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>>7153487
your anatomy in both seems solid. the rendering in your redraw is much better too. did you leave out the pupils and iris because of the powering up? and also, probably just a personal taste thing, but im not a fan of how the outfit runs along the bottom of the breast from where the breast attaches to the torso. it looks like latex, so it would make more sense (to me) if it didn't follow the exact contour of the breast. i get your probably trying to make her a bit more sexy, so maybe just dial it back a tiny bit. seeing the nipples is pretty hot
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>>7153650
thanks anons

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I made my biggest progress in art when I started drawing less, and spending more time watching art videos, reading art books and browsing twitter art. Do 20 minutes of intense, focused drawing, then do 40 minutes of theory.
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>>7153552
Draw this
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>>7153552
>>7153363
Would be really awesome if we can see your work. I will give honest assessment if you show use something.
I kinda have similar theory, I stopped grinding too much and spent more time in observation and theory.
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>>7153552
why don't you post your before and after your big revelation
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>9 hours passed
>nothing posted
alright
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>>7153363
>I made my biggest progress in art when I started drawing less, and spending more time watching art videos and reading art books.
I'm gonna be honest with you guys but it's the same for me, when I just draw I do improve a bit but I'm essentially reinventing the wheel when I could skip hundreds of years of learning by doing just reading about perspective.

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Because I need a place here to discuss 2D art and post my new stuff.

I suppose a single general is better than making single threads.
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>>7151738
do you remember what the issue is
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>>7151737
CHARGIN
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>>7151678
FEET ASS NIGGA
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>>7144658
I suggest making a thread on /i/ chris, the culture over therw enjoys personal threads more.
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>>7153757
explain

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>complaining
edition

>What is /fag/?
This is the Furry Art General thread, here we post everything related to kemono, furry, and animals alike.

>Rules & Guidelines
Please refrain from flaming, causing drama or replying/feeding those who cause such.
This is a SFW thread only, please take caution so you don't get BANNED for posting NSFW art.
This general is NOT and NEVER will be affiliated with any discord servers, DO NOT click any of the discord links that are spammed here!
As always, don't be afraid to ask for critique!

>Resources
https://www.lackadaisycats.com/ishkabibble.php
https://x6ud.github.io/

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It happened. I'm good at anatomy.
This is it. I'm finally going to learn how to draw hot animals and earn money.
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>>7153281
good luck anon! also pyw
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>>7153281
You can't just say something like that and then leave us hanging anon.
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Still a long way to go.
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>>7153281
>and earn money.
he doesn't know...

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>What's a webtoon?
Webtoon is the ancient Korean art of scrolling comics. Instead of traditional manga/comic pages, panels are spread out individually for easier reading on cell phones.

>So they're just spliced manga/comic pages?
You can do that if you want, but they're fundamentally different for a few reasons. For example, panels tend to be drawn longer to fit phone screens, and traditional 2-page spreads are not possible to fit in scrolling format.

>Are there standard page sizes?
Technically yes, but it depends on which platform you post in. Naver Webtoons uses
800x1280px, but the site automatically splices & resizes images anyway.

>Do I have to make it in color?
If you want subscribers, yes.

>Why would I make one?
To be rich & famous, of course. All jokes aside, the pay is low if you're lucky enough to get hired in the first place, the deadlines are more brutal than the manga industry, and the average reader age floats around 11. But as a novel medium with a growing industry, it may still be worthwhile enough for you to experiment.

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This is conceptual art for a comic about the life of a young hoodlum.
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>>7135569
Yes it's possible but it's extremely hard since early 2023 because the Webtoon suits demonetized canvas artists and most originals now are Korean imports.
A few canvas comics are just the censored version of their nsfw Patreon and they make cash off fujos so maybe try that.
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>>7152264
It's a scam.
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>>7152110
General rule for YA writing is to write something you would have read when you were a teen. You have to be brutally honest with yourself.
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>>7153761
that's actually really good advice

Are there any books teach the fundamentals of painting from imagination in the same way that Vilppu or Huston teaches the fundamentals of drawing?

I just keep seeing shitty youtube videos. It seems very cryptic
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>>7153682
gurney's books and videos are great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K6snXJg_aU
but the same as drawing, the way to get good is to draw from life and ref
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>>7153682
I thought it only took 20 minutes to learn to paint
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>>7153682
Med's map is a good start, I've also heard good things about the Richard Schmidt books.
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haha time to take your Meds xd

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Will drawing 8 hours per day unironically help me get good in 1 years?
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>>7151583
Not if you repeat the same mistake over and over again. Improving at any skill is more about quality practice than quantity.
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>>7151588
Yet the best artists of all time are all European.
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>>7151974
Cute art. Not the best technically but full of soul and appeal.
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>>7153584
>Realest answer in this thread.
You don't need to master all the fundamentals to be a professional artist, an anime animator or a comic penciller have no use for color theory for example.
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>>7153537
Post your work.
Prove literally any of the same old Andrew Tate grindset shit you dispensed is true.

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All the people who teach eventually give up after telling to go and learn about scott.
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>>7153733
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAlCyQqEZSU&list=PLCIGm6amaRzvTt8TGNekIOWBf7oHC6DA0
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>>7153733
Draw a straight line on your paper
Put a dot in the middle
this is your vanishing point
Now draw a box where all lines go into that point
you now have understood how to draw
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>>7153720
i learned these things from too moderndayjames and he is helpful but i still dont know what scott really means by cone of vision or tmaking background or even mirroring planes.

Fantasy artwork was best when being made by coomers like Royo or Caldwell.

Now what fantasy art are you making anon?
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see picrel
>>7152269
that's a lot of effort for a shitpost anon, I applaud you.
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Would it be possible to make an art community of fantasy/sci-fi nerds? It could range from guys who copy Frank Frazetta to people who want to make their own biblical epic line drawings. I think something like that would be interesting.
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>>7153267
too bad that she barely had a presence in that forgettable ass game
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>>7153619
Frank frazetta enjoyers and biblical epic chads in one place for the purpose of making the raddest of pieces exuding power , nobility and the greatness of the human spirit.
Would be ebin (and incredibly based).

More then likely, filled by a bunch of begs but given time there is a possibruity of creating a trully epic place
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