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how hardcore are you?
>>2721321youre a fucking retard if you think a limp-wristed tree faggot has the resilience to do anything except complain on twitter
Like clockwork, this board's quality is taking a nosedive when spring is in the air. See you all in November!
>>2725742Lmao she did it and none of your seething will ever change that.
>go on /out/, the outdoors board>people are complaining and whining about a woman saving a tree
>>2721260>a woman carried 2 years worth of food on her back whilst climbing a treeYeah fake
I have only ever hiked in Europe but I'm interested in experiences other places when I take a sabbatical next year. Pic rel is the type of environments I have hiked.Pictures please!
>>2726971You can persist in your delusions if you want, like I said. The fact of the matter is that the entire western US is more biologically diverse than any other region in North America, across any scale. And you can confirm it yourself, Alaska has more referenced species than that referenced by ADFG. The old ADFG references date to the 90s, in other more active organization catalogs both the central AK boreal region (tundra and boreal to arctic zones) and the Alaskan rainforests *individually* have more than 2,000 native vascular plant species. And Canadian research in the BC rainforests have even more. The BONAP catalogs are not complete, but you can reference them yourself and observe that the actual total species diversity and abundance is higher in the west, and when it conforms the data to county level maps (western counties are the size of eastern states) it completely excludes individual mountain ranges (where the majority of the diversity is). For example for one county it might reference 2,800 species for vascular plants, when in one single mountain range that is 1/300th the size of the county in that county might have 1,200 species within it by itself. And the rate at which catalogs and journals update is either excruciatingly slow (the gov and eastern sites) or a few years behind at worst (western US and other orgs catalogs). This even applies to animal species and microclimate studies.
>>2726967>i think that "calling someone out" is the end-all-be-all because i think my opinion is objective fact>if you prefer somewhere else you're mentally ill>i will now write my third thesis of the week on why anyone who doesn't love my state is a doodoo-head, to be accompanied by interpretive dance and throat singing
>>2726972I've already done this with you. I posted the trees I've cataloged on my 3 mile hike. I am not uploading 90+ images on here at once or arranging the collage for it. I can ID 100+ plant species within stretches of less than 50 yards in some sections. You can go do the research yourself anytime you like as well. The leading plant based research in the US right now is in Arizona in regards to classification, new species, phenology, medical and technology applications. >>2726973Arizona is one of the most beautiful places on Earth. You do you.
>>2726976The eastern US does not have the total species abundance and diversity of the western United States, and that's not only with vascular plants, it's also with animals to. Your specific delusion that trees = higher plant diversity is simply false and not in accordance with reality.
>>2726977>I've catalogued soooooo many plants, like, a bajillion and eleventy-seven of them>p-prove it? UHHHHH t-that would be too much work, I'll just say preconceptions some more>>2726979Wrong anon. I didn't mention plant diversity, but your insistance that anyone who likes things you don't like is "not in accordance with reality" is indicative of some real mental issues. Seek help.
I heard Europeans find our forests to be woefully underdeveloped, our grasslands astonishingly mundane, our swamps horrifically useless, our plains ridiculously boring, our badlands pitifully impractical, our deserts outlandishly dangerous, our mountains hilariously unusable, and our canyons disgustingly red. Is this true?
>>2726418The canucks and aussies ive dealt with are captivated with boring plain birds and some were scared of fireflys, thinking they were some kind of swampgas monster
>>2726418Europeans destroyed there nature so anything naturally growing that wasn't artificially influenced by European hands and there regulations looks too disorganized for there tastes.
>>2726961Is it time for shitpost bumpin?
>>2726418I'm European and would never go to USA. Like 50% of you country is nature not for white men. Dessert, canyoinlands, etc. = not white. Maybe I'd do NE if I had to because the nature is properly european.
>>2726980The most recent immigration of "white" man into Europe was from the steppes. The other half was from Asia minor and the middle east.
starting this because i don't want to clutter the catalog with my dumb ass question. i am trying to plan an /out/ing, 4-day weekend type deal. i would ask my best friend who i usually camp with for advice but he's deployed. i'm planning on getting a tent, foam pad, sleeping bag, and solar phone charger. i already own clothes, lighter, water bottle, plenty of packed food, and a mora companion (it was on sale for like $14 and i like to get plant and mushroom cuttings) and flashlight. do i need anything else, or is it all just consumerist memes? forgive me if i forgot anything super crucial, i'm retarded (89 IQ). i don't plan on making fire. i just want to hike and sleep. it's a normie campground so i don't need water purifiers, i think. it'll be in southeast oklahoma, sunny and hitting 60F at night. good weather to not go missing? thanks in advance! :)
>>2725155Cool, I used it every other day for about 3 weeks. It works pretty good, gets rid of smells, works better than just wet wipes, I have no idea where all of the sweat and oils and BO stank and frumunda cheese went but it seemed to have been cleaned away
>>2726834will be fine if properly installed
Undeveloped land is very cheap, and the tax is cheap.Is there any reason why I shouldn't buy cheap land for conservation as an absentee owner, to protect it from development? I'm in USA, for reference.I could camp on it. I could later decide to sell it or use it agriculturally, or it could serve as a backup site for mobile home if I get priced out of urban housing.There's no law saying I have to develop land that I buy, is there?The worst I can anticipate is squatters or trespassing vandals damaging wildlife while I live in the city, but it's improbably and recoverable.Has anybody done this?
Recently transitioned over to a propane firepit because I'm tired of buying overpriced wood and hauling it. It's a small setup with a 5 lb propane tank. I live in an apartment and don't have outside storage for the tank, so my plan was to use it all or bleed it empty before returning home and storing it in doors. Everything I see about propane storage says not to store it indoors, even when empty. I should be alright to keep it inside, right? Even if there are residuals, the amount would be so small to not be an issue.
>>2726907absentee owning land and preventing development isn’t conservation. conservation requires active work like research, invasive removals, plantings of natives, and usage of fire or responding to wildfire. a better way to conserve land is to buy it and then donate it or work out some shared ownership deal with an org like the nature conservancy
what's your gaymen/entertainment setup when backpacking, /out/?
>>2721414My man servicing fixed wireless for yokels to post on facebook
>>2721097Just get a retroid pocket 4 or whatever the newest one is>>2722635You can drink or take a benedryl
>>2718545Its worth putting some effort into the design. It's rolling out something we'll-made and aesthetically pleasing for game at the end of the day. She did the chessboard one with six celtic knotwork and runic memery and took some inspiration from link related for the backgammon board. https://thecompassgoods.com/products/bandana-backgammon
>>2716351Bumping for interest
>>2716352The post that made everyone seethe But he was right. Nintendo Switch+ tent is ultimate comfy.
I have a dream to see the Wollemi pines in the wild. But the actual location of the valley containing the trees within the national park is a closely guarded secret. Wollemi NP is massive and almost entirely wilderness; I'm pretty sure I could search for years without ever finding them.Does anyone have any leads or know anything about this?
>>2722493Bump
>>2722493>>2726809kek, im >>2721909 (and its not a larp)all im saying is that if you want to go there and check youll be disappointed
>>2726949All I'm saying is the jannies are fucking lazy for allowing the location to stay up.
>>2726960trannies also are lazy. a-are you saying jannies are trannies?
-33.02508002817495, 150.31693168015713these aren't the coordinates. I just thought it looked like a cool spot for a hike ;)
What is the tried and true bivy. Light/durable/inexpensive etc
>A battered Brazilian Spanish travel influencer has detailed being horrifically gang-raped in India while her husband was forced to watch — as police revealed Tuesday that eight men have been arrested over the sick attack.>The couple, who go by Vicente y Fernanda on their social media pages, allege they were set upon by the gang of men while camping in the eastern Indian state of Jharkhand last Friday night.https://youtu.be/-nKNgV1zSjs?si=j8kvd2czkhGPiT-KThe place they picked to camp was sketchy as fuck but that later on the night I'm not sure they had many choices left.
>>2726634i dated an indian girl once and she talked about how she loved being in canada because she could finally go campingshe was from the south of india, so I know there was nature nearby. I asked her why didn't go camping there. her response:>oh, women don't go camping in India because they will be raped for that
>>2726634This should be moved to /trv/
Fuck it if you're a jeet with a dead end life this is a win
how do people not know this? They have gangs of murders and rapists in certain parts that target tourists.At least when the Brits ran india they put a stop to this
>>2726938Retard take desu
>america has no cultur- America has a culture. And it's beautiful.
>>2718453I'm gonna level with ya, bud. You sound faggy.
>>2708175There's the Adirondacks and the Catskills, most of Maine looks undeveloped as well, but yeah a lot of urbanization on the east coast.
>>2708147hot
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>>2724926Idgi
theres a mountain about 3 kms away from where i live and there are always tons of rabbits there. maybe im autistic or something but i think it would be really cool to try hunt them only using primitive tools/weapons (nothing more advanced than a bow, and thats already pushing it). has anyone tried it? or tried rabbit hunting in general? im just looking to get a couple every few weeks or so, nothing too crazy
>>2726865>im going to use a slingshot, ive already decided that and you would know if you read the threadWell fuck you too then, dickhead.
>>2726926Everybody does
>>2726926Can't argue with that
>>2726899You’re delusional
>>2726899>curve your shot downwardsWhat do you even mean by this kek?But look a bow is obviously alot more quiet. You can also shoot it with relative imputiny as far as there being anything behind the target goes. Having said that, it is about 50x inferior to a firearm obviously if you are actually trying to kill something to eat. For me it is almost strictly sport though I dont have much desire to eat a rabbit. It is fun and rewarding to shoot something with a bow mostly- but it is hard on the animal and some people have certain sensibilities that make this aspect repulsive to them. >>2726890I didn't realize you'd be walking around d inhabited places with it kek. And no I don't do a whole lot with them. Throw them over the back of a chair or set lamps on them etc. that sort of thing.
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Hi all. The HOA (or the lobotomites they hire) sprayed a bunch of my native plants with round up. The plants im most upset they sprayed were the Solidago goldenrods I grew from seed that I collected on my hikes. Anyone have a similar experience? Some have died back entirely, others the leaves have turned white and thin but still have green grow points, and others have just burns from the splatter. I believe that theyll bounce back from the root but after a bit of reading Im a little afraid. Apparently roundup can take up to 2 weeks to kill a plant to the root, and it seems roundup is often recommended to kill goldenrod. Im very very very upset. My garden is really the only reason I havent committed suicide.
Compost material collection...
>>2726943Yes im a larper
>>2726906Bill them for it and take them to court when they refuse to pay you.
>>2726943It's about time for me to get my scythe out too.
Anyone got any experience with bivvy bags? I'm looking into buying one on the cheaper end. There's tyvek ultralight bags, there's heavier ones, weight isn't a huge concern for me personally but I like light stuff if it's reasonably durable. Rain and mosquitoes are my primary concerns, I'd like a face cover of some kind
>>2726623You keep the tropen inside the def4.I wouldn't recommend it down to -40, maybe -20-30 if the rest of your sleeping gear is good, but my personal experience is a bit off due to combining it with a FDF foam mat that only has a 2.0 R value.-40 might work, but at that point you're surviving, not sleeping.
>>2726610Rain is the entire fucking point of them. They are for cowboy camping. They are great if you don't feel like setting up a tent, check out a used military gore tek one I have one and it's great for basically everything. After 20 miles i simply don't feel like setting up a tent and can just instantly setup my sleep system mine also has a bug cover. Also it is king for setting up camp in slanted, cluttered, etc space.
>>2726630I will crawl around the forest floor like a worm while it downpours on my bivvy bag and I am comfy and warm inside, and tentfags will seethe about it
>>2726950Automod reminder: Please mark all spoilers for Denis' upcoming God Emperor of Dune.I am a bot and this action was performed automatically.
>>2726610I got one from a military surplus store and it's superb if a bit heavy/bulky. Perfect for uk weather
I'm buying a house with my wife. It's in good shape and there are no major structural issues (we just had the inspector come through). Alright, that's great, but there are all kinds of little details here and there that will need to be worked on. Got any advice on some books to learn basic craftsmanship? I'm good with my hands, but never really built anything before. I need to get good at this stuff.
>>2726872try /diy/
You'll need a hatchet, meme battoning knife won't do.
>btw I am heterosexual
Moving out to Oregon for a job: near the cesspool called Portland. Any suggestions on places to hike for someone who has never been in the NW.
>>2726007>>2726456I said we are full, alright? Plenty of space elsewhere.
>>2726007Nope, there are chuds out there and its hard to pick up my fent
>>2726515Is that the Big Obsidian Flow at Newberry?
>>27259083 sistersMount Saint Helens is a simple walk up mountain, get a good look at the caldera.
>>2725908the coast/beach is pretty desolate in areas...very unique hiking imo...I miss the west coast...
